CSG Public Meeting Lismore

Posted by on Dec 6, 2012 in Thoughts | No Comments

This is a work in progress transcription from the Public Coal Seam Gas meeting held in Lismore.

 

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Source

The original audio recordings were sourced from the ABC. 

http://www.abc.net.au/local/stories/2012/12/05/3648284.htm?site=northcoast

 

Part 1 – Introduction by Thomas George

CSG meeting part one

00:14

CROWD: CHANT: NO CSG

00:18

CROWD: Boo-ing

01:02

THOMAS GEORGE: Thank you, Good Morning Ladies and Gentlemen. First of all I would like to acknowlege the country we are standing on, the Bundjalung Nation.

01:30

CROWD: JEERING

01:25

Well I would have thought you would have shown your respect to the people that 

originally -inaudable-, both elders past and present and any abo -Cut off by Crowd-

01:56

THOMAS GEORGE: Well I always acknowledge it so if you can't, I can't help that. 

02:08

Ladies and Gentleman (repeated three times).

02:23

Since the strategic land use policy was released I have had a number of questions put 

to me over the policy and the scientific answers related to some of the questions.

02:39

 All I can tell you, so, as your representative, I have made every effort (repeated 3 times) 

to get together the experts, I have made every effort to -inaudable- meeting here in Lismore. Have the experts come to…

03:27

So it took a long time to get this meeting together. You just can't… I am very privilidged 

despite what you might think to have these people come here to Lismore to be able to talk and answer the questions that have been put to me with your concerns about coal seam gas and coal and mining in general. 

04:00

So without futher ado, I am going to hand over to Brad Hazzard.

04:08

CROWD: BOOs.

 

- END -

 

 

Part 2 – Brad Hazzard and Bundjalung Elder

 

CSG meeting part two

 

 

00:01

 

BRAD HAZZARD: Ladies and Gentleman, thank you for coming this morning. To the people who want to hear this, I am going to continue to talk, and if you don't want to listen to me -inaudible-.

00:12

Ladies and Gentlemen, First of all can I thank all of you for coming and expressing your views but also to those who want to hear from the experts who are here today. 

00:22

The people who are here today, can I say to you, -Repeated- you either, this, there is ways of having discussions and their is ways of not having discussions and this discussion I have brought today on behalf of the NSW Government the public servants, your public servants who are not politicians and the disrespect that is currently being shown in not listening to them is not helpful because they have to hear your genuine 

concerns and they won't hear it unless you actually talk reasonably.

01:00

Can I thank also those folks who are listening and waiting to hear and have an exchange of views. Look, lets go back a stage, back to where we were, when we first came to government 20 months ago there was an issue that was in place.

01:28

The former government had granted as you probably see now through the ICAC -

inaudible- a number of issued PEL's across the state, the number of which was extremely concerning. 

Some of those particularly concerning and we see that in the daily press. What we did when the new government came in, and we were concerned that there was no process in place, no process, and what we did was we decided that we would establish a cross portfolio first time ever, each of these people are not politicians, they are not the sort of 

people, they work in your communities they don't actually -Cut off by Crowd- 

02:25

 Introductions

04:38

02:20

Greg Yeates on the end is from the local planning department regional office the person next to him is Rob O'Neill from the office of water, next to him is Dan Keary from the dept of Planning, Brad Mullard from energy and resources and Dr Fogarty at the end who is from Primary Industries. 

02:41

I think that now matter what I say at this point it's probably better that is comes from the public servants with no political gloss, their not -Cut off by Crowd- 

02:56

To that extent, I propose to do for those of you who would like to show some courtesy, 

little bit of courtesy folks, can I ask each of the public servants, 

03:06

is there a microphone down there guys? Can you grab a mic and first of all,

03:21

Gary (sic) could you set out your qualifications.

03:27

Could I explain this, the process that is going

speak. to occur, each of these offices is going

03:33

CROWD CHANTING: LET HIM SPEAK

03:33

 

03:41

BRAD HAZZARD: Ok, you can be first.

03:46

Gary (sic) , if they don't listen, just continue.

04:02

BRAD GATES:  Ok, My name is Brad Gates, I am the -inaudible- regional planning 

office.  -inaudible- 30 years now,… regional development.. coal seam gas strategy.

04:34

BRAD HAZZARD: Second officer that is here is Rob O'Neill.

04:43

CROWD CHANTING: LET HIM SPEAK

04:43

 

04:45

ROB O'NEILL: -inaudible- dept planning, strategic, geography, masters degree in urban 

planning, involved in this policy for about 18 months now working with my colleagues -

inaudible- 

05:05

CROWD CHANTING: LET HIM SPEAK

05:29

-inaudible-

05:31

CROWD APPLAUSE

05:44

UNKNOWN: This man has something to say

05:49

UNKNOWN: I just want to say to these blokes here to you politicians (background comment: their not politicians). Now I am one of the descendants of the original owners of the land, CROWD CHEER, and what your actions here today trying to sell coal seam gas, to mine our lands is sacrilege to us as a people, it commits genocide to our culture 

and our way of life. 

06:36

You -inaudible- care on helping the process on genociding us as a people who are the originals of this land, do you know that this what you are doing?

06:53

You have a government who are hearing the protests of the constituents but they don't see that you and the government are forcing us into a native title claim over country to give the government 85% management of all our lands, waters, minerals and everything 

in it, and we are saying to you, NO!

07:25

No native title, No to mining, we want our land here for the next generations to come. 

You -inaudible- are denying us our rights as sovereign people on our lands and under the UN resolutions which the government of Australia is a state of we have the right to determine our own destiny.

08:03

We have the right to have a say over our own land under the UN constitution and we're asking you as a government to live up to your standards and your requirements by the UN with regards to us as a people. 

08:19

Otherwise we'll hand out to the people and not government we are here to open up dialogue with everyone here, this is all concern for Mother Earth, that all we are here for, now lets have a dialogue. 

08:39

CROWD APPLAUSE

 

 

 

CSG meeting part three

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CSG meeting part seven

CSG meeting part eight

 

 

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